[users at bb.net] Grid and Transposed Grid Views in buildbot nine?

[Craig Rodrigues]

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Charles Lepple <clepple at gmail.com> wrote:

> For my use case, I don't see the regression because we did not hit any of
> the limits in 0.8 that would cause the new architecture of 0.9 to be worth
> the upgrade. Rather than using multi-master setups, we divided things up
> and scaled horizontally, then aggregated the data from the various
> buildmasters. I'm not sure how we would begin to approach that in 0.9 -
> some of the developers even ran with JavaScript disabled by default in
> their browsers. Developers with Python experience are not always
> well-versed in JS.
>
>
Thanks for providing feedback, Charles.

What I am seeing is that for some people who have a working buildbot 0.8
setup, there is very little functionality
in buildbot 0.9 that incentivizes them to upgrade, and the regressions in UI
are disincentives.

Right now, this is OK for them, but longer term this will be more
problematic
as buildbot 0.8 has no active release manager, buildbot 0.8 doesn't support
Python 3, etc., etc.

In a conversation with Andrej Rode on IRC, I began to realize another
consequence of the UI redesign in buildbot 0.9.
A lot of buildbot developers and contributors are familiar with Python, and
not so much with modern JavaScript frameworks for UI.
It would be good to attract more JavaScript developers to help improve the
buildbot UI.
I'm not sure how this can be done, because in the competing Continuous
Integration systems seem to be good enough
for JavaScript developers.

While there are some problems, I think nothing is too bad, and the problems
can be overcome.
Improving the buildbot 0.9 UI and filling some of the gaps in UI
functionality compared to buildbot 0.8
will go a long way to improving things.

The addition of a wsgi plugin (
https://github.com/buildbot/buildbot/pull/3041 ) will help people
write new customized dashboards, but for those people who are not writing
dashboards,
it would be good to have out of the box views that are comparable to the
views in buildbot 0.8,
to ease migration.

--
Craig
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