[users at bb.net] buildbot 0.9.0 rc3

[Ryan Schmidt]

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Pierre Tardy <tardyp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am very happy to announce the release of buildbot 0.9.0 rc3.
> 
> Thank you for helping testing rc1 and rc2. 
> 
> Only one rarely seen user visible bug was fixed for this release.
> So I expect it to be the last rc, and probably be pushed as is as the v0.9.0.
> 
> The most notable change is a new feature though.
> 
> As already discussed in the mailing list and weekly meetings, we added an opt-out usage data collection to buildbot, so that we can have a better idea of what our installation base looks like.
> 
> Even if you are not affected by the fixes, please upgrade to rc3, so that we can release buildbot nine with the confidence that it has been installed on a fair amount of systems.
> 
> As usual, you can find the release notes for complete list of what's new.
> http://buildbot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/relnotes/0.9.0rc3.html
> 
> And also the relnotes for nine as a whole compared to eight:
> http://buildbot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/relnotes/0.9.0.html
> 
> Don't forget to use the latest version of pip
> pip install -U pip
> 
> The packages are available on pypi, but as they are release candidates, you have to use the --pre option of pip.
> 
> pip install -U 'buildbot[bundle]==0.9.0rc3' --pre
> 
> Please continue the great move and adopt buildbot nine!

I guess I'm surprised Buildbot 0.9 has reached RC stage. I've been checking http://nine.buildbot.net for awhile, and I've never seen anything familiar there. I kept hoping it would change to look more like 0.8 as development continued, but that doesn't appear to have happened. It does not resemble the 0.8 installation we've been using for years in any way that I can see. I don't know how to use this, and I can't imagine asking my users to figure out this interface either. I don't see a grid view or a console view. The waterfall view doesn't load properly in Safari unless I then resize the window, and even then I don't know what to do with it. It seems to take 2 or 3 clicks to get information that was available at a glance with 0 clicks on 0.8. The left navigation is confusing. (What's "Deploy", why's it first, and why doesn't it have anything in it?) Pages take a long time to load, with all of the asynchronous data they're loading. 6 out of the 7 settings screens say "You shall not pass!" "need admin rights to access administration panels" (I wasn't trying to access administration panels; I was trying to explore the settings.)

Even if I did want to upgrade, the migration guide is empty, so I don't know how: http://trac.buildbot.net/wiki/NineMigrationGuide

I'm just very confused by the direction Buildbot is taking in 0.9.