[devel at bb.net] MOSS Application

Dustin J. Mitchell dustin at buildbot.net
Sun Nov 1 04:04:59 UTC 2015

I think I can safely say we don't need more hardware -- we are finally
using most of the hardware we have, but there's plenty of capacity
remaining.  We also have funds remaining to buy a Mac Mini.

Our only periodic cost is for the domain name.  I'm currently paying
for that (it just renews with my others).  It wouldn't be a bad idea
to start transferring that so that SFC pays for it, in case I'm hit by
a bus, but that's a separate conversation.

Recruiting people, and then supervising them, pose the problems with
paying for development work.  When we tried this before, the available
funds were a little low - basically enough for piecework, which leaves
a burden on someone else to define the piece, measure progress, and so
on.  Given enough funding, perhaps we could pay someone for, say, 10
hours of work per week on an ongoing basis, with the expectation that
they will perform basic project maintenance (bug wrangling, debugging,
review, making releases, metabuildbot upkeep, etc.) and spend the
remaining time hacking on the highest-priority bugs.  One thing we
have now that we didn't before is the weekly meeting -- that would be
a good time for such a person to check in with the project, so their
work is visible and we can make an honest evaluation of whether we're
getting a fair deal.


On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Vasily <just.one.man at yandex.ru> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm under impression that Buildbot lacks enough love for Windows - maybe
> that should be the point of application?
> Thanks,
> Vasily
> 30 окт. 2015 г. 22:08 пользователь "Bill Deegan" <bill at baddogconsulting.com>
> написал:
>> Questions to the community:
>> 1) Do we need any hardware?
>> 2) Do we need to cover any monthly costs?
>> 3) Are there any features/development/audits which would be worth paying
>> for (assuming we can get a grant from Mozilla)
>> 4) Any other uses of grant money for the project? (Beside buildbot Ferrari
>> or Helicopter)?
>> -Bill
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Dustin J. Mitchell <dustin at buildbot.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Applications are open now:
>>>   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.moss/fnHhVzNCnNk
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Dustin J. Mitchell <dustin at buildbot.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Bill mentioned he's willing to take the lead on putting together an
>>> > application to Mozilla's open-source program,
>>> > https://wiki.mozilla.org/MOSS
>>> >
>>> > And he jumped right to two good questions:
>>> >
>>> > 1) How much do we want?
>>> > 2) What will that produce?
>>> >
>>> > What do you think?  I don't have good answers for these questions (and
>>> > I also want to stay out of this particular project since I'm a Mozilla
>>> > employee).
>>> >
>>> > Dustin
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