[Buildbot-devel] Discussion of the Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement with Conservancy (was Re: Offer of membership to Buildbot into Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc.)

[Bill Deegan]

Sounds fine to me.
-Bill


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Marc-Antoine Ruel <maruel at chromium.org>wrote:

> Thanks Bradley for the explanations.
>
> I'm fine with the process.
>
> M-A
>
>
> 2013/4/11 Dustin J. Mitchell <dustin at v.igoro.us>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn <bkuhn at sfconservancy.org>
>> wrote:
>> > This potential outcome is why it's important from Conservancy's
>> > perspective to make sure everyone who is involved with a project in a
>> > serious way signs the FSA, and that at least those who are nominally
>> > involved (or are previous heavy contributors) give an email "ok" to the
>> > idea that BuildBot is joining Conservancy.
>> ...
>> > Thus, if there is a major contributor to BuildBot who feels
>> > uncomfortable signing the FSA, Tony and I want to investigate why in
>> > great detail.  I can tell you vaguely that there *have* been projects
>> > who wanted to join Conservancy, but we didn't take them ultimately
>> > because some major contributor simply refused to sign the FSA (primarily
>> > for reason (a) above).  We couldn't sort out the issue, so the project
>> > just didn't join.
>>
>> That clarifies it quite well - thanks!  The Buildbot community is
>> currently only defined by a rough consensus among the bunch of us, and
>> signing the FSA is a way of saying "yes, I agree that this is what
>> Buildbot is, and that I'm OK with it becoming a sponsored project of
>> Conservancy, and with recognizing that the PLC has the right to make
>> decisions on behalf of the community."
>>
>> The main thing we need to know ASAP, then, is if anyone out there in
>> the Buildbot community who feels they cannot sign the agreement.
>> Please get in touch soon - either on-list or privately - so we can try
>> to work things out or (hopefully not!) call off the party.
>>
>> > Anyway, Tony and I did some drafting on the one issue of your concern at
>> > the PyCon meeting: the Termination without a Successor provision.
>> > Here's our proposed text on that (as a diff against the default
>> > template):
>> ...
>> > Does that address the concern that you were raising at the meeting at
>> > PyCon?
>>
>> I'm happy with that, but it was Tom's concern, in particular, so I'll
>> await his answer.
>>
>> > The main drafting action, though, is to write the Representation
>> > section.  Tony would be glad to make a first draft, or you can make it
>> > if you prefer that.  Which do you prefer?
>>
>> I'll take care of that.
>>
>> > Actually, I'd prefer these sorted the other way around: i.e., it would
>> > be ideal if the initial PLC is known at the time of signing the FSA.
>> > However, that's not mandatory if there's a good reason to figure out who
>> > the signatories should be, and then finalize the PLC after the FSA is
>> > signed.
>>
>> That sounds like a good plan.  Revising my earlier actions, then:
>>  * Start a thread asking for nominations for the PLC
>>  * Draft the agreement based on the LaTeX document in the OP
>>
>> As far as signatures, when the time comes I will make a good effort to
>> contact everyone who's been involved with the project - basically the
>> git shortlog, posters to the mailing list, and everyone in
>> MAINTAINERS.txt.  Your email seemed to distinguish "signatures" and
>> "email 'ok'".  What form do the signatures need to take, then?
>>
>> Dustin
>>
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