<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Thanks for the feedback, I'm now convinced that I'm mis-using "CI" :)<br><br></div>However, the suggested sentence doesn't really "snap".  It sounds like "Buildbot's useful for doing some of the things relating to this thing".  Thoughts on a tighter phrase?<br><br></div>Dustin<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-18 10:45 GMT-05:00 Neil Gilmore <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ngilmore@grammatech.com" target="_blank">ngilmore@grammatech.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div class="m_2745895358815132859moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/2017 3:45 PM, Dustin J.
      Mitchell wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">2017-12-12 7:06 GMT-05:00 Vit Ry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:frodox@zoho.com" target="_blank">frodox@zoho.com</a>></span>:<br>
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            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi! According to PR12
              build (<a href="https://31-103838017-gh.circle-artifacts.com/0/root/repo/out/10-Buildbot.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://31-103838017-gh.circl<wbr>e-artifacts.com/0/root/repo/<wbr>out/10-Buildbot.pdf</a>)<br>
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              > Buildbot is a framework for building continuous
              integration applications.<br>
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              I'm confusing with this every time. What is "CI
              application" ? CI - is a process, a culture...<br>
              I don't hear often 'CI application' term, and what is the
              meaning then?<br>
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            <div>A CI application is an application that implements a
              continuous integration process.  I'm trying to make the
              point here that if you're going to use Buildbot, you're
              going to have to implement what you want (your
              application) *on top* of Buildbot (a framework).  Do you
              have a better term?<br>
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    That first sentence is a bit tautological, isn't it? I understand
    what you're trying to get at -- buildbot is a framework, not an
    application itself. But someone unfamiliar with the term may head
    off to Wikipedia, which seems to have a very different definition
    that you seem to from that definition:<br>
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    <a class="m_2745895358815132859moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_integration" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Continuous_integration</a><br>
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    In <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_engineering" title="Software engineering" target="_blank">software engineering</a>, <b>continuous
      integration</b> (<b>CI</b>) is the practice of merging all
    developer working copies to a shared <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_%28software%29" title="Trunk (software)" target="_blank">mainline</a> several times a day.<br>
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    That, combined with your explanation of buildbot, would seem to say
    that buildbot does merges, which really isn't the case. It does its
    work after the merges are done.<br>
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    Maybe a better way to say it might be:<br>
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    "Buildbot is a framework that that aids developers in maintaining
    some of the best practices of Continuous Integration, such as
    automating builds, tests and deployments."<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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    Neil Gilmore<br>
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